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Showing posts with label ZWO 120mm mini guide cam. Show all posts
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Monday, 3 February 2025

Equipment tutorial: using autoguiding with an ASIair mini

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This post was updated in January 2026

I have decided to get into the world of autoguiding. Its been a deep rabbit hole to dive down into! 

In today's post, I 

  • share what my current astrophbotography rigs are 
  • outline my autoguiding set up 
  • briefly explore why I want to do autoguiding
  • give detailed autoguiding workflow notes based on the equipment I am using 
The aim of the post is to try and simplify the entire process of setting up an autoguiding rig - remember this blog is written by a beginner - to help other beginners out there! 



Let me remind you - this is my current astrophotography kit

  • Canon 800D (which is about to be astro-modified)
  • Samyang 135 and 14mm lenses at F/2
  • Canon 22 and 50mm prime lenses at F/2.8
  • Zenithstar 61ii with 61A field flattener
  • SkyWatcher Star Adventurer 2i 
  • Ioptron skytracker
  • EQM-35-PRO mount
  • Optolong L-Pro filter  - broadband
  • Optolong L-enHance filter  - narrowband
  • Celestron Lithium Pro powertank
  • Skywatcher Power tank
  • Four 26,800 mAh power bands
  • Dew band heaters for refractor and samyang 135mm lens
  • Carbon fibre benro tripod
The autoguiding set up I assembled comprises of 
  • ASIair mini
  • ZWO 120mm mini guide cam
  • RVO 32mm f/2 128mm FL Guide scope 

Why did I delve into autoguiding? 

Fair question. Well after a couple of years of getting solid 2 minute subs on my SWSA 2i, I wanted to push this a little further to 3 - 6 minute subs - especially now I have the EQM-35-PRO. I have tried with the SWSA 2i to achieve this but it has been hit and miss. I decided that simple autoguiding would help me achieve this more easily. 

These were the four videos that set me off on this journey: 






What is my autoguiding work flow when out in the field? 

As always, the notes I provide below are my 'cheat notes' which I take with me on most shoots. I assembled them from research notes made whilst watching various YouTube videos and reading various blogs and websites.  They are written for me, based on my particular erquipment rigs - but they may help you if you are beginning your auto guiding journey. 

As always my blogs come with a caveat. I may have things wrong. I may have misunderstood things. Remember this is a blog written by a beginner to astronomy and astrophotography for other beginners starting a similar learning journey. 

If you think I need to add further detail or correct something, drop me a comment below and I will get it sorted. And thank you! 



What are my workflow 'cheat' notes for setting up autoguiding on an astrophotography night? 



Connecting equipment together

1.        From back of ZWO 120mm mini guide camera – usb cable to ASIair mini usb slot 

2.      ST4 cable from guide cam to SWSA 2i tracker OR USB/RJ45 cable from ASIair USB slot to controller unit on EQM-35-PRO mount

3.      From Canon 800D dslr – cable from USB port to ASIair mini USB slot

4.      To ASIair mini – 12v cable from Celestron Lithium Pro power tank 

5.      USB storage drive into spare USB slot on ASIair mini

6.      From separate power banks on tripod legs and/or Skywatcher power tank – (a) dummy battery      USB cable to Canon 800 dslr   (b) Dew heater bands for guide scope and Samyang lens or zenithstar 61ii   

7.      Ensure all cables will rotate freely without snagging






The work flow: 

## 1. Equipment Setup (First Time or After Changes)

Go to ** Equipment** tab: 

 ### Mount

* Select your **mount brand/model**

* Connection type: USB / EQMod / Serial

* Tap **Connect**

* Set **Mount Type = EQ**

* Confirm **Tracking = Sidereal**

### Cameras  -

* Connect **Main Camera**  

 * Connect **Guide Camera**    

* Set: Gain (typical: 100–120 for ZWO cameras)

### Guide Scope   

* Enter **focal length**

* Guide camera pixel size should auto-fill

### Location & Time*

 Confirm:   Latitude / Longitude    Time zone

  * Daylight Saving (ON if applicable)




## 2. Rough Polar Alignment (Manual)

Before software alignment:  Level the tripod - Point the mount **roughly toward Polaris** (or south celestial pole)

Set mount to **Home Position**     

* Counterweight down

* Scope pointing north   

* RA = 0, DEC = 90 (or mount default)

Notes -   Balance slightly east-heavy   DEC: slightly north-heavy    Cables secured (no drag)     Guide scope solid (no flex)

Neutral balance = DEC backlash nightmare.


## 3. Focus guide cam/guide scope

*Switch off both cameras in app  

*select guide cam to main cam    

*test shots to focus guide cam    

*switch back to correct cameras   

*Dark library - ON

(Aim for low star size/high peak value) – set gain 50 - 60– affects star size – aiming for star value 2 or 3 and <5. Select bin 1 for guide scope (bin 2 if stars faint or using narrowband filter). 

To focus properly - Point at a star-rich area  Set:   Exposure: 1–2s    Gain: 60–70  Gamma – 50   

Adjust focus until:  Stars are small and round  Not donuts   Not bloated   👉 If stars look like fuzz or blobs, guiding will never be good.)

In this screenshot - I have started guiding calibration
It wasn't going well but that was because, as I later discovered, my tracker wasn't working properly


## 4. ASIAIR Polar Alignment (Software)

1. Select **Main Camera** (not guide camera)    

2. Tap **Start**  

3. ASIAIR will:  Take image    Plate solve   Rotate RA automatically (~60°)

### Adjust the mount     

5. Follow on-screen arrows: adjust RA first and then Dec        

6. Aim for:   Error ≤ **1 arcmin** (good)  **30 arcsec** (excellent)

RECHECK PA AFTER TIGHTENING BOLTS UP – REPEAT IT! 

Poor polar alignment causes: Declination drift  Failed calibration   Inconsistent guiding corrections


## 5. Go Back to Home Position

1. Tap **Mount → Go Home**  

2. Wait until finished

This ensures accurate GoTo and guiding.


## 6. Focus (Very Important)

### Rough Focus   

1. Go to ** Focus**   - Select **Main Camera** 

2. Exposure: 1–3 sec   - Increase gain if needed 

 3. Adjust focuser until stars are small    ### Fine Focus (Recommended)  * Use **Bahtinov mask**

(Tap and hold box – drag onto a star – tap zoom on LHS – let settle for 1 or 2 images – aim to get lowest FWHM as possible)


## 8. Plate Solve & GoTo Target

1. Go to *Preview**     

2. Tap **GoTo** 

 3. Search object (e.g. M31, M42) 

4. Tap **GoTo**  

5. ASIAIR will:   Slew    Plate solve  Re-center automatically  Wait until **Error < 10–20 arcsec**

Goto Settings   Use plate solve: ON        Sync after solve: ON       Search radius: 5°       Downsample: 2



## 9. Take a Plate Solve Image

On the main camera panel:  Exposure: 2–3 s  ISO: 1600

1.       Tap Plate Solve - 📌 ASIAIR takes an image and analyses the star pattern

2.       Plate Solve & Sync  If the solve succeeds:  ASIAIR syncs the mount   *Coordinates are corrected  *See a green solve confirmation

If the target is not centred: *ASIAIR automatically offers Recentre   *Tap Recentre - It will: Slew slightly Re-solve

Repeat until centred 🎯 Result: target centred within a few arcseconds

3. Verify Framing (Optional but Recommended)

Take another Preview image   Confirm: *Target position  *Rotation / framing       Use Framing Assistant   Or manually nudge mount and re-solve


## 10. Guiding Setup & Calibration 

Before calibrating:  Point near:  Celestial equator  Meridian Declination between –20° and +20°

1. Go to **Guide**       

2. Select **Guide Camera**  

3.clear calibration tab top right corner.   

 4. Double tap graph – check guide settings as follows:  

  • RA agg 60/70%  Dec agg 50/60%     
  • Corrections – on   
  • Guiding rate (under mount tab) x0.5   
  • Calibration rate (try 750 first)2000 
  • Max RA duration200 ms   
  • Max DEC duration200 ms 
  • DEC mode: auto  (👉 Choose North or South only based on which way DEC drift naturally goes after PA. Avoid DEC Auto unless PA is excellent.)
  • Backlash compensationOFF  
  • Multi-star guiding: ON (if available in your app version)  
If calibration fails:  Increase calibration step size slightly Check DEC cable and mount response  Verify guide scope focal length is set correctly (128 mm

if imaging towards zenith > calibration number

5. Exposure:   * 1–2 sec (start with 1.5s)

 6. Tap **Calibrate**     * Happens once per session or target  

7. After calibration completes, tap **Start Guiding*


**Very important:**  After guiding starts, watch DEC drift for ~2 min:

* If DEC slowly drifts **north**, set **DEC South only**

* If DEC drifts **south**, set **DEC North only**

### Good guiding values 

 * Total RMS:   * **< 1.5″** = good    * **< 1.0″** = excellent (depends on mount) aiming for calibration in <18 steps    Less than 4 steps = poor calibration – reduce calibration to smaller number. Too many steps - > calibration number

Spikey blue RA lines – decrease RA agg first; then if no effect - alter exposure to 2” or mount speed to 0.75 or 0.25

Blue line pulses oscillating same direction - > aggression. Peaks either side of line – decrease aggressiveness

Aim for star peak 80 – 200 for proper lock on


## 11. Imaging Settings (Autorun Preparation)

Go to **Autorun**  

### Camera settings  

  • * Gain: 100–120 (typical)        
  • * Offset: default 
  •  * Exposure time:   
  •  * Broadband: 60–180s  
  • * Narrowband: 180–300s (if guided well)
  • * Guide restart if lost      Optional:   * Meridian Flip (highly recommended)     
  • * Auto-shutdown at end


## 12. In **Autorun** tab: 

1. Select:  * Target  * Camera   * Filter

2. Set:   * Number of frames (e.g. 50 × 120s) (do in blocks of 30 minutes and then check cables, focus, etc before starting next thirty minute block)

3. Enable:  

  • * Dithering (every 12 frames)   
  • *dithering threshold – 1.2”   
  • * Auto-centre    
  • * Guide restart if lost   
  • *First delay – 15”  
  • *Interval – 3”   NOTE: Dither less often for long subs

4. Optional:   

  • * Meridian Flip (highly recommended) – flip at 0d; 
  • * recalibrate guiding - YES   
  • * Auto-shutdown at end

5. do test image and check histogram – zoom in check no star trailing - if so – stop guiding – refocus main camera lens/refractor with Bahtinov mask – restart guiding – test shot


## 12. Start Imaging!

1. Confirm:   

  • * Guiding is active    
  • * Target centred   
  • * Focus is good

2. Tap ** Start Autorun** 

ASIAIR will now:  

  • * Capture images    
  • * Dither    
  • * Re-centre if needed    
  • * Handle meridian flip (if enabled)

3. study guide graph – see section ## 9 above



## 13. End of Session

After Autorun finishes:   

  • * Stop guiding   
  • * Park mount            
  • * Power off ASIAIR

🔄 WHEN TO PLATE SOLVE AGAIN

Plate solve again:  

  • *After every GoTo  
  • *After meridian flip  
  • *If target drifts off centre   
  • *When changing targets

Do NOT plate solve continuously during guiding.


🔍 What “Good” Looks Like with EQM-35-PRO

With a 128 mm guide scope + ASI120MM Mini:

  • RMS total: 0.6–1.3″ (good)
  • RA dominates error
  • No oscillation pattern
  • Stable star count (not dropping)
  • DEC mostly flat with occasional bumps

🚨 COMMON MISTAKES (Very Common)

Trying to guide before solving or trying to guide with unfocused stars 
Main camera out of focus or loose guide scope 
Exposure too short (<1s)
Pointing near celestial pole when doing calibration

❌ over-aggressive RA/Dec settings 

❌ expecting perfect guiding in bad seeing

❌ rotating guide scope after doing calibration

❌ not balancing mount to be RA east heavy; or north or south heavy in Dec OR making balance neutral! 

for first solve
Forgetting to tap Recentre 


Again in this shot  the guiding calibration isn't going well - too many steps! 

here is a screenshot showing good guiding in the graph
RA blue line is showing 0.59' and this is good. The stars in the previous image, which is the one shown, are pin point with no trailing evident. On the RH menu we can see the next image is being shot and we have 112" left of a 120" image. So far, on the auto run - 6/15 lights have been taken. 

This shows a good autoguiding.
The two cross lines are green and meet centrally in the green square. RA is 0.66' - well below 1.0. 

Problem solving on the night:  

If getting trailing or inaccurate guiding, initially check

1.       all settings are switched on in app - e.g. main cam, mount and guide cam

2.       correct focal lengths entered in various tabs (wrong ones will lead to failed calibration)

3.       focus is absolute on both cameras - poor focus can lead to failing plate solving

4.       settings in app not interfering 

5.    cables are not snagging anywhere around mount

6.   Mount is is powered and working. Ditto with ASIair mini

7.   Internet signal still established between app and ASIair mini

8.  Dec is in one direction and not auto - so north or south 

9.  RA shows a sawtooth pattern - then RA is too aggressive - reduce the RA aggressiveness 

10.  plate solving fails due to low exposure

11. star elongation/trailing = poor polar alignment  - redo PA 


Quick tip: 

🧠 Quick Mental Model

  1. GoTo = get close
  2. Plate solve = know exactly where you are
  3. Recenter = put target dead center
  4. Guide = stay there





Below is a checklist that you can use on the night to help ensure you don't miss any steps in the workflow: 


I hope the above helps you set up your autoguiding system successfully and saves you hours of research time. 

As always, if you have any tips, observations or thoughts about the workflowe above, drop me a message in the comment box below and I will rewrite the post to take your observations into account. 

Meanwhile, it only remains for me to say 'clear skies, stay safe and haver fun out there under the stars'. 

Steve